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  • Personly I think Peter is both a good guy and a bad guy.

    Bad Guy- because he bullies trice, tries to kill trice, stabbs edward in the eye, and other things I might not know.

    Good Guy- because he saves trice's life more than once.

    So What Do You Think?
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    • Maybe trice and peter would make a good couple, ya' know

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    • I thinks he is the ad guy who is tired of being bad

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    • That's a good point. Thankyou for posting.
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    • To me, Peter seems like a good guy and a bad guy. My first impressions of him in the first book was that he was genuinly evil and was incapable of showing goodness and kindness. His actions such as stabbing Edward with the butter knife seemed irrational and selfish. Peter also seemed to be in favor of the simulations by not disclosing the location of the control room, But, later on in the second book we learned that his attack on Edward was not unprovoked from Edward himself. A turning point for his character was when he gave Tris the time. I don't know if anyone would remember this but in Tris's time in Erudite Headquarters Tris is asking for the time from Peter pretty frequently. He never gives it to her though. A night before her execution though, Peter gives Tris the time without being asked- an act of pity and maybe guilit. This showed us that Peter does have a human bone in his body! Not to mention his inquiring about why Tobias was in Erudite HQ as well, possibly trying to comfort her. Then after these little acts of kindness, we get the full finale of him saving Tris's life- rescuing her from her own execution. I think this shows major character growth from the first book, when he beat her sensless without at second thought. In the third book, we really discover who Peter is- a boy who does'nt understand the evil inside of him. He wants to be new and without these evil traits so much that he is willing to give up his entire memory. He is disgusted by himself and I think , sadly, that is what we were rooting for the whole first and second books... for him to realize his despicable behavior. After he takes the memory serum, Tobias tells us that some of his bad traits still came to surface, showing that those traits were always inside of him, he just could'nt control them. Finally, Roth always identified Peter as having these inocent eyes and an inocent look, despite his inner wickedness. I think Peter was an innocent all along who could not control his own inner-being... who could not control the evil that always presented itself to him. Peter's true character is shown when he shows his selfless acts of saving Tris and risking his own life at times for others. He knew he was messed up from the begining but he just let that become part of who he was. Don't get me wrong, he did some pretty despicable and dreadfull things that could not be forgiven easily, or ever, but to me, that was not when his true character shown through.

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    • well Miles Teller is pretty cool but Peter in the book is horrible but there were some bits where I liked him............

      So I think it is a bit of both (But more BAD)

      no offense to anyone

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    • Okay... I'm gonna say this once and once only. Peter is better than Caleb, in the fact that he regrets his actions, and it it isn't because of guilt but because he understands it's wrong. Guilt is the feeling that you have to owe somene, which he originally felt as shown when he saves Tris from execution. But Peter acknowledged the fact that he needed to change, where Caleb only acknowledges the guilt he felt after betraying Tris. Peter is not ignorant, he is simply ambitious, and he does seem to have moral ethics as far as the "eye for eye." Peter reminds me of Edmond Dantes. He probaly has just as much dynamicity and we don't realize it. Peter also doesn't do it because he wants to protect himself only, but because he wants what he thinks is best for himself. Peter used to be a coward, wanting to protect himself, yet he begins to be able to distinguish between protecting yourself and thinking what's best for yourself. In the end, Peter realizes what's best for him, is that he destroys the despicable person he once was. Did Caleb ever attempt to make any changes to himself? No.... That is why Peter is better than Caleb by all means. 

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      • Refrence only Shadow and Bone readers will get* Peter's sort of like The Darkling, only a step down and doesn't have everything that made the Darkling the Darkling.
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    • Peter is a good guy for God's sake! He saved Tris's life at Eriudite in Insurgent, and he wanted to lose all his memories just so he could be good! If that isn't good I dont know what is. Caleb isn't all bad but I think Peter is better than him. Caleb helps with the torturing attempeted murder of his own sister! That just screams evil! Now Caleb is not all bad because he does volunteer to go on the suicde missoin in Allegiant for Tris. I still think he should have died instaed of Tris, but hey whatever.

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    • Actually rather then going with good or bad I'd actually say he's a neutral guy meaning he's done with good and bad things but he's sick and tired of being a bad person and wants to be a good person. So I'd go with neutral but wants to be good. Which my answer describes him perfectly since he saves Tris's life in book 2 so he's trying to be good but sometimes he does bad things so neutral but wants to be good describes Peter Perfectly.

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    • He's probably had a bad past with his parents so does bad things because of what his parents did to him but he also has a good side he just has a hard time trying to be all good instead of neutral because he does both good and bad things.so neutral but wants to be good is the perfect to describe him! And I seriously mean the perfect way

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    • +A Wikia Contributor:Techincally I think Caleb might of been injected with a serum in insurgent around Tris's excution because other wise if he wasn't he would of saved her.Caleb said he's like Erudite from His past experience there in divergent but he can also be selfless too which he used the selfless when he was describing having tris his only living relative excuted.and if my guess is correct here caleb's test result was probably Erudite&Abngation meaning caleb is probably divergent too so my guess would be Natalie was born dauntless but transfered to abnegation and Andrew was probably born erudite but transfered to Abgnation because tris got Dauntless,Erudite&Abnegation and Iam guessing Caleb either got 2 or 3 results and picked Erudite but he can also be selfless too but his reason for it could be good or bad so I wouldn't really say Evil for Caleb I'd go with he's more Neutral just like Peter is neutral but wants to be good.so both have done good and bad things but caleb doing bad things could have to do with being injected with serums at Erudite to make him follow Jeannine's orders because he probably refuses what she wants because he's divergent and can't be controlled unless she uses a serum on him.I mean Think about it why else would Jeannie have Caleb around Tris when she's at Erudite? Jeannie knew Tris's Test Result meaning she knew Tris was Divergent maybe not the percent with being 100% making Tris the strongest one she was hunting,Jeannie probably knew caleb was divergent too and used him against to tris to try and get what she wanted just like Jeannie used Four/Tobias against Tris in Divergent.And my guess is Peter might be Divergent too because some how he was wake at dauntless guarding it when tris and Caleb entered with marcus,four,caleb and Andrew when she asked Peter why he was awake he claimed "it was because he was smart and erudite needed him" but when she asked where Jeannie was controlling the soldiers from so she had to shoot him in the arm because he refused to tell her where and because he said she wouldn't shoot him.peter being divergent is just a guess because it would explain half of his actions at Erudite with Tris and Four.

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    • ^and techincally after she passed 4 factions caleb looked at Tris's brain wave pattern and told Jeannie they should let Tris rest(another selfless act he did that was actually good at Erudite).

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    • I would think of him as a good guy in the books. Kinda, Maybe... 

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    • Peter only saved tris"s life because she saved his and he didnt want to be in her debt 

      but the thing withthe time was actually a good deed

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    • Cussing isn't allowed on here, guys.

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    • Peter is insecure and conflicted.  He desperately wants to be good, but he can't help but to do "bad" things from time to time - like most humans.  But, having been born Candor, he can't see past his bad behavior so he saw himself as a bad person which, implicitly, gave himpermission to keep doing bad things.

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    • he probably thought she was going to come back to life and shoot him in the arm again if he didn't save her

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    • Both

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    • And it's Tris

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    • To me, Peter is kind of like a double/triple agent. Maybe he's like Draco Malfoy with a more snarky attitude, who can't seem to decide whether to go with Jeanine or with Tris. 

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    • For me Peter is a bad guy genetically, but he really, really, really wants to change because he cant for much that he tries

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    • he is a good guy or he would not have survived

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    • Jessie Ill wrote:
      For me Peter is a bad guy genetically, but he really, really, really wants to change because he cant for much that he tries

      I agree with you 100%. That's why he used the memory erasing serum in Allegiant (Book). Lol, it was so funny when he couldn't remember his name! He's like, "Peter? Is that me?" and Tobias is like, "Yes! For the eleventh time!" I laughed so hard!

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    • A bad guy who repents. The reason he saved Tris wasn't about goodness. He just hated being "in debt." That's pretty cowardly. Tobias even called him cowardly for taking the serum. He's taking the easy and shameful way out rather than to work for it like everyone else does. I do think he wasn't all bad, but no antagonist is completley bad. For you Peter-Tris shippers out there, need I remind you of how disgusting Peter was to Tris? If a guy was like that to me I'd definetley not be interested in him. Yuck.

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    • Peter has a large crush on tris so he can't let her die and he saves Tobias because he knows she loves him and she will be happier with him and also she would never forgive him.

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    • when did peter save this's life more than once?

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    • I mean tris

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    • A FANDOM user
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