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  • I think the rules of Abnegation are very boring: How do women get pregnant if there is physical contact?

    It's a bit strange!!!

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    • I agree. I don't remember much about what was said about it, but I do remember thinking that it was ridiculous. It's like you can't have a real relationship, even if you're married. By the way, there has to be physical contact for women to get pregnant (at least the natural way, of course). I think you meant to say: "How do women get pregnant if there isn't physical contact?"

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    • Annabeth e Percy escreveu: Concordo. Eu não me lembro muito sobre o que foi dito sobre isso, mas eu me lembro de pensar que era ridículo. É como se você não pode ter um relacionamento real, mesmo se você é casado. By the way, tem que haver contato físico para as mulheres a engravidar (pelo menos da maneira natural, é claro). Eu acho que você quis dizer: "Como é que as mulheres engravidam se não não é ? contato físico "

      Si é exatamente isso. Obgd por responder a minha question.

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    • I do not understand any other language but English.

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    • In abnegation, they share any intimate encounters in private as they are brought up to think that every kiss and every hug should be only for the privacy of their homes. Like what Beatrice said about Edward and Myra "They should be in private to do that" quoting their physical contact. But for them to have children, then there has to be physical contact. Like Abnegations rules are old fashioned because they have to forget about themselves and care for others, being apart of that faction you'd have to forget about being selfish and that is any physical contact.

      The physical contact thing in public thing where they don't touch each other in public like what Andrew and Natalie did in divergent when their children were at their choosing ceremony. Because they are to forget themselves until they disappear like into the background. But I do also find the way abnegation live is peaceful and lovely but I would never survive that kind of lifestyle because I am way to hyperactive mentally and physically.

      So at the end of the day it is all about them not being selfish about themselves and their needs because it would be so selfish for them to do so if they share physical contact in public. Also it would be against their laws to do so, it would be breaching their menifesto and so that means they could be jeopardising their place in abnegation if they do such thing. They seem old fashioned because of what they believe and which is nice and it is their lifestyle. Which many people will have in common.

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    • Annabeth and Percy wrote:
      I do not understand any other language but English.

      Thanks for answer my question.  That's what I meant in Portuguese.

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    • Big Brother 99 wrote: In abnegation, they share any intimate encounters in private as they are brought up to think that every kiss and every hug should be only for the privacy of their homes. Like what Beatrice said about Edward and Myra "They should be in private to do that" quoting their physical contact. But for them to have children, then there has to be physical contact. Like Abnegations rules are old fashioned because they have to forget about themselves and care for others, being apart of that faction you'd have to forget about being selfish and that is any physical contact.

      The physical contact thing in public thing where they don't touch each other in public like what Andrew and Natalie did in divergent when their children were at their choosing ceremony. Because they are to forget themselves until they disappear like into the background. But I do also find the way abnegation live is peaceful and lovely but I would never survive that kind of lifestyle because I am way to hyperactive mentally and physically.

      So at the end of the day it is all about them not being selfish about themselves and their needs because it would be so selfish for them to do so if they share physical contact in public. Also it would be against their laws to do so, it would be breaching their menifesto and so that means they could be jeopardising their place in abnegation if they do such thing. They seem old fashioned because of what they believe and which is nice and it is their lifestyle. Which many people will have in common.

      Other then the stuff said above they might do IVF to have a baby or fertilisation through artificial way and that could also limit the contact between a man and women.

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    • Yeah, they could. But did they have those kind of equipment in Abnegation?

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    • Annabeth I don't know.

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    • Annabeth they most likely don't, but then again, this is future Chicago. I don't know.

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    • Abnegation is a lot like the culture I grew up to be honest (I am half indian and half chinese). No touching the opposite sex in public (PDA etc). Modesty is always encouraged, and to always put others first (in my case, respect your elders). When I first read Divergent, Abnegation sounds like something so familiar to me. And with regards to how the women getting pregnant business, we have a traditional seeking-hand-in-marriage and the first night etc. Abstinence is encouraged. Yes, unfortunately sex is still viewed taboo and is seen as a hush-hush thing that happens between married couples.

      It's not the best culture in terms of sex education and staying safe, but it is a culture I was born into nevertheless and I've grown to respect a lot of it. There are plenty of changes these modern ages so the younger ones are taking up the mantle of getting educated. Admittedly, Abnegation as a culture has its own fallacies, but when we've grown up within it, it's something that comes naturally. I've always been among my peers to always be the one that apologises. I dislike much attention-drawing activities on my social media profiles. I still wear things pretty conservatively and yes, there is also (TMI warning) the fact that I still am saving myself for marriage even though I am 26. Culturally conservative people like us exist :) 

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